Find a way to say it.
Prepare what you want to say in English or Spanish, and understand a written message in the other language.
See how it works →You’re invited to beta test Travel Via Clara, an app in development that helps native English and Spanish speakers have two-way conversations. Try it and tell us what works and what needs improving.
Apply to testFrom learning to living
For English speakers learning Spanish, travelling or making a new home. Say and Live work both ways: prepare what you want to say in English or Spanish, and understand the reply in the other language. Keep your plans, places and useful phrases together.

A bridge to real conversation
You may know the words in a lesson and still hesitate when someone answers. Via Clara helps you take the next step: ask a question, understand a reply and connect with the person in front of you.
Prepare what you want to say in English or Spanish, and understand a written message in the other language.
See how it works →Begin in English or Spanish, follow the reply in the other language, and decide what to say next.
See how it works →Bring places, practical details and phrases into a flexible plan for your day.
See how it works →Return to useful language, conversation flows and places without starting from scratch.
See how it works →A note from Leilia
When I moved to Mexico, I’d had private Spanish lessons and spent six months on Duolingo. But even basic conversations could leave me stuck. I could ask a question, then freeze when someone replied.
I wrote specific questions on flash cards, even one for buying a metro card. They helped me begin, but unexpected replies still caught me out. Receipts piled up, and travel information was scattered across too many phone apps.
After 30 years as a journalist, communication matters deeply to me. I’m building Via Clara to bridge what we learn and what we need in real life, with more room for connection and less time searching for the right words or details.
Leilia Spencer, founder
Explore with curiosity
A market conversation, a local tradition or a small discovery can change how you see a city. Explore this researched day in Coyoacán, Mexico City, and leave room for what you find along the way.
We’re building towards a place where travellers can choose to share the experiences that mattered to them. Your perspective could inspire another journey and help someone discover what a city or region offers.
Example day · Mexico City
An example day in Coyoacán: living traditions at a museum, a market lunch and time to pause by the coyote fountain.
Help shape the beta
Travelling, relocating or learning Spanish? We’d love your perspective. Try Via Clara in two short sessions each week and tell us what helped, what felt awkward and what you’d like next.
We review applications personally and welcome participants in stages. We’ll contact selected applicants about their place and app access; others may join the waitlist.
We’d love to hear how Travel Via Clara could help you travel. This takes about two minutes; your answers stay private for recruitment. Launch news is a separate, optional choice.
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Travel Via Clara brings ideas and stories together here. Via Clara is the app for your own conversations, plans and saved essentials.
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